She means hold no grudges, do not withhold forgiveness no matter what someone does to you. Following closely upon this is a statement on how Lennon proceeded in reviewing the case. What would you do then? You *will* have to answer for that someday, even though you may not believe that now The bishop is not infallable, and people must use their own discernment. It is so sound. We see in others what we are ourselves. Bishop Lennon has NOT spoken definitively. I mention no names. The words were cleverly chosen. Humble soul will hear the voice of God resounding in their hearts, whereas the proud will heap upon themselves blind guides who can only lead them into a pit. Are you saying that when the Bishop says, Dont go there, he is acting outside his sphere of authority? and this is a later explanation for something that doesnt logically make sense to begin with. and not only were the decree and letter published in English, they were also published in Spanish and Korean undoubtedly to insure that language was not a barrier to getting the information: http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=343:decree-holy-love-ministries-decreto-ministerios-del-santo-amor-&catid=67. How could false messages result in so many good fruits, such as to increase prayers and devotion to God, Mary and the saints? Therefore, this official proclamation by the Bishop will be of little regard to Sweeny-Kyle, or her husband Don Kyle, the director of Holy Love Ministries. Bishop Lennon is not infallible and ruled in error on these apparitions. My life is stressful enough without stirring up such pots, I reasoned. And, furthermore, this directly contradicts the 7/29/93 message above from Our Lady! People have been going to this shrine since the early 1990s, drawn by founder Sweeney-Kyles claim that Jesus and the Blessed Virgin Mary and a host of saints are appearing to her with messages. One woman credited her fathers conversion from a Sunday church grumbler to attending Mass and saying the rosary daily even two years after his visit to the site. In November of 2006, I wrote an article exposing the Holy Love site (reproduced below). He is not my Bishop. Consider the options the devil has available to trap faithful Catholics? That person is Jesus, the Word of God made flesh. I myself have visited a couple apparition sites that proved to be false. What must be safeguarded for the faithful is authentic Church teaching and Sacred Scripture being understood properly. Im glad the Vatican is taking an active role. Leave it alone. But it is NOT coming from God. These are my answers to your points about which you claim that HLM is in error. You make some good points. Joan of Arc was condemned by bishops who told her to renounce her visions. You should fear anyone who will not acknowledge their errors especially if they hold persuasion over many hearts. As to the annulment, it is none of our business whether or not she got a declaration of nullity, a declaration of invalidity or whatever. Bishops, as in the case of England, have led entire countries astrayOur belief is in Christ and his Church, not in the changing opinions of bishops. This you quoted falsely. I dont use my emotions to discern. It sought approval through official channels for several years, but instead, in 1999, the Catholic diocese issued a statement urging extreme caution. Grace and virtue dont flow from the Blessed Virgin Mary through our own free will. I have seen it myself and I know for a fact that her friends put in the piping for the water to draw people there. I dont know how to accomplish it, but this is where the problem lies., in my opinion. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. It can lead to a crisis in faith instead of the reverse. I am wondering why HLM bothers you so much. Only three are listed on the HLM Testimonies page. Until and unless that happens, people are endangering their souls by going there. The Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, always looks below the surface because all that glitters isnt gold and regardless of how many people visit or how many statues are erected or rosaries said, it does not constitute proof. "Rosary of the Unborn": Heaven Sent or Hoax? - Pro-Life Action League and in fact, the Holy See was consulted on this matter and appears to be with Lennon. In fact, sometimes Ive thought about writing my own book about how disastrous my visit to Conyers became to my own personal faith journal. Thank you for posting this. Why is it that it is so offensive to you that persons believe in and follow Holy Love Ministries? I pray that you believe in Holy Love sooner than later. I am curious to know where Bishop Lennon stands on defending our treasured Faith. You will find the Church where the true Faith is. "Heavenly Father, today, I surrender to You my heart. I keep asking people, What will you do when the Pope (not this one, of course) tells you that the Holy Eucharist is only the living God during the Mass, so please put the remaining hosts in the garbage. Then we had better know the difference between true obedience and the false obedience of excess. The organization has been at odds with the Catholic Church almost from the start. I call upon every poster (and future ones as well) to ignore 3221. The bishop has an obligation to pastor his people and protect and nourish their faith. Read all about it in The Rite The Making of a Modern Exorcist by Matt Baglio. @3221: You poor woman or man. While you are diddling with proper canonical procedure about apparition sites, the Faith will be completely lost. He cannot act in us unless we give Him our free will choice to do so. If the place is truly Catholic then the truth will out, as it has for every genuine apparition in Church history. Have I seen you over at http://rcspiritualdirection.com/blog/ ? They surely cannot say no credibility can be given about HLM messages, as HLM messages are all the teachings of the Catholic Faith. First, I would like to thank you for the sincere and humble tone of your article. Very interesting. Thanks. So, instead, the devil uses a Catholic facade to lure them in. Period. He has a way with His Church. God chose 12 men as disciples later to become priests. Church laws is very precise.Words either mean something specific or they dont . Do you not know that it is through our free will choices that we sin? This idea exalts claimed private revelation as if it were necessary not only for the plan of God, but for the Return of Jesus. Then the issue was handed over to the Vatican itself. Hour of Reparation to the Shoulder Wound - Holy Love Ministry Messages Given that he himself may have an all-too human agenda for nixing HLM, and add to that he will not give a reason for his disapproval, and add to that the corruption that now infiltrates the Catholic Church, I am very wary of him. 3. Therefore, stand guard over your hearts and know that the grace of My Heart will see you through every situation. Secondly, the Blessed Mother has acted through a perfectly legitimate canonical move. Defense of Holy Love Ministries is defense of the Catholic Faith. If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. Many people have brought forth personal testimony and facts against HL, but still, followers persist. Contrary to the Bayside fiasco, Bishop Lennon could not cite one error from HLM. Keep up the good work!oh, and a Blessed and Happy New Year to you and yours. Now youre obfuscating the issue. All wonderful recommendations. 2 human hearts = 8 possible chambers. Yes, I understand the force of the document. He has 5 kids who he cannot interact with unless it is about Holy Love and what he considers the Truth. Navigating the Interior Life: Spiritual Direction and the Journey to God, article on Apparitions/Private Revelations, Holy Hacks: Everyday Ways to Live Your Faith & Get to Heaven, Big Hearted: Inspiring Stories from Everyday Families, http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2011/12/sister-magdalena-of-cross-nun-who-made.html, http://rcspiritualdirection.com/blog/2012/12/04/csd-book-club-announcing-our-next-book-3/comment-page-1#comment-12621, http://rcspiritualdirection.com/blog/2012/06/10/spiritual-direction-book-club-how-do-i-join-it%29, http://rcspiritualdirection.com/blog/2012/12/04/csd-book-club-announcing-our-next-book-3/comment-page-1#comment-12630, http://www.ewtn.com/Library/NEWAGE/MUGABAY.TXT, http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2009/11/obedience-to-catholic-church-judging.html, http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/home/, http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__PU.HTM, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zh-yR0pbmU, Irish Prayers for Strong Families and Spiritual Protection, 20 Ways to a Holy Christmas Through Advent, St. Michael, St. Gabriel, St. Raphael, Archangels, Book Review: Habits for Holiness by Fr. In the first place, Kevin, the state of corruption in the Church makes it almost impossible for the true Faith to be allowed to be spoken. It did not make sense. @LizEst I could not go on the link to join the book club it doesnt work. Actual apparitions (as distinguished from hallucinations or other psychological phenomena) can only be from one of two sources: God (supernatural) or an influence of the devil (demonic, preternatural). A prophecy was recently sent to Catholic philosopher, Daniel O'Connor, from Father Michel Rodrigue. Cover me with the Precious Blood of Your Divine Son. Then, all their gains are lost. Why?. Messaggi del Santo Amore (Holy Love) the bmv took me to the divine mercy devotion thanks to my wife and her dear mother and father-in law. It sought approval through official channels for several years, but instead, in 1999, the Diocese of Clevlandissued a statement urging extreme caution. Our Blessed Mother would lead her children to understand that the virtue of obediencetrue obedience as opposed to false obedienceis obedience to the true and full Faith, not to a bishop who is preventing that Faith from being learned. Neither am I drawn to apparition sites perseeven if I sense that they are authentic.Apparitionseven if genuinedo not fortify the Faith that God has given to me. I admire your fortitude! Ive just read through 12 or so replies by 3221 commenter here and am astounded and saddened. I just read the The whole place is deceptive. After accomplishing the safe return home of her students, and after buying an acre of land near the Chapel to build a home to continue her commissioned duty to Our Lady, Sister Adele obeyed the Bishops command. OBEYED THE BISHOPS COMMAND. Great spiritual blindness has struck many consecrated and the confusion will be great in the House of God. @LizEst:disqus, I was referring to the form of the document. The Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, always looks below the surface because all that glitters isnt gold and regardless of how many people visit or how many statues are erected or rosaries said, it does not constitute proof in the Churchs judgment. This IS the teaching of the Catholic Church. Its not wrong to go to a site where purported apparitions are occurring. They say so themselves. Also, what you interpreted about those messages shows that your thinking is clearly boggled. Patti Maguire Armstrong: The Stumbling Block of False Apparitions Patti PDF Catholi Diocese V' OFFICE OF THE BISHOP Holy Love Ministry | Facebook Loyalty to Christ means loyalty to the fullness of the Faith in its pristine splendor. So he abandoned the responsibilities of his vocation, fatherhood, and took on these other responsibilities. Insinuations have been made, and without one shred of proof. At Holy Love Ministries the faithful have an opportunity to learn the true Faith in all its fullness and richness. thomas stated 20 yrs before he was beheaded that the king would have his ,thomashead if thomas interferred with the king. We must be vigilant always. The treasure of Holy Love Ministries is that it is teaching the fullness of the Catholic Faith, and this is in opposition to what continues to happenor rather not happenin most Catholic dioceses of the United States. It is really the same motivation of those who visit approved shrines. Aquinas: On the contrary, (Hebrews 13:17) obey your prelates and be subject to them. (Question 104 Obedience, Article 1). Gift Shop - Holy Love As a journalist, I care about accuracy. I noticed that the conversation is stuck on the Bishops wording, etc. I received a booklet with them and that is when i saw these so called messages. The one place I can go today to be instructed in the depth of the Catholic Faith is Holy Love Ministries. The one who listens to you listens to me and the one who rejects you rejects me; and he who rejects me, rejects the one who sent me,Luke 10:16. A non-believer can simply read the older warning messages, dated much before any occurrences, and see for himself. Lack of forgiveness is not of God because it is against LOVE. Help me to be Your instrument in the world. She is the Spouse of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit, Who is One with Her through grace FLOWS THROUGH HER. Jesus told us that the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church and he promised to send the Paraclete to keep the Church free from error. The primary sticking point of those who opposedeem falseHoly Love Ministries is, Mary would never lead the faithful to disobey legitimate ecclesiastical authoritynamely bishop Lennon, Bishop of the Cleveland Diocese. Would our beautiful Blessed Mother ever lead us to disobey the bishop? A group known by the name of "Holy Love Ministries" and also the "Missionary Servants of Holy Love" has been active in the Cleveland area for several years. God bless youand Blessed Advent! One more thingbuyer beware! All this is holy in nature but is not proof of authenticity of purported apparitions. Thomas T. is my father. Did the early Chistians refuse to believe in Jesus because the local religious authorities objected? Did it automatically disappear? His rhetoric is very specific and unique; it is easy to recognize. Where Charity abidith there is Love let our Love for one another be as strong as our love of self! When we use are judgment, our God given intellect, to discern, and act on it, we are not being gods. Maybe you should go back and re-read. If Jesus were giving messages on all truth to individuals, the result would not be thousands of denominations going in different directions. We have no affiliation with the Diocese of Cleveland. Apparitions at Holy Love Ministries Revisited. When an alleged apparition attacks the Church, there is reason enough for the local Ordinary to say, thanks but no thanks.. Im still awaiting word from the Mother Teresa Center. (This link is for how to joinits freehttp://rcspiritualdirection.com/blog/2012/06/10/spiritual-direction-book-club-how-do-i-join-it). I do believe the current administration is a judgment of sorts on us. look at luther and especially king henry and st thomas moore. Heres the entries for synonyms for admonish: berate, censure, rebuke, chide, reprimand, reprove, scold. I think this puts the HLM in even greater disrepute.
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